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Post by Graham Filmer on Jun 6, 2012 15:42:42 GMT -8
Having followed the excellent guide to changing the indicator stalk, I've hit a couple of snags. Any extra guidance would be appreciated.
First off on replacing the unit, it sits a little proud on the right hand side, meaning it takes a little 'persuasion' to get the thin C washer to fit - is this correct?
More importantly in testing things, the stalk does not want to stay in the right indicator on position, returning immediately to the park position. I'm guessing this is a spring issue, but any guidance and what and how to fix it would be great. pls note I have re-fitted it multiple times and the issue remains
Best Wishes
Graham
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Post by Lee Hedges on Jun 6, 2012 17:50:48 GMT -8
Photos will help us "see" what you're describing and help us provide better support/advice. If you can't upload pics then email them to me and I'll do it for you.
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Post by Graham Filmer on Jun 7, 2012 10:55:02 GMT -8
Sorted (I think one of the springs was just not springy enough so swapped it for another I had) On a related issue however, there are two wires running down the indicator stalk; from the wiring diagram brown and white - is the dip switch brown on its own - i thought went to the indicators (but I have yet to connect this and they are working!!) this being the case is is this the brown that runs to my non working horn? or potentially is there a short here? BW Graham  |
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Post by bobnotch on Jun 9, 2012 8:09:33 GMT -8
Sorted (I think one of the springs was just not springy enough so swapped it for another I had) On a related issue however, there are two wires running down the indicator stalk; from the wiring diagram brown and white - is the dip switch brown on its own - i thought went to the indicators (but I have yet to connect this and they are working!!) this being the case is is this the brown that runs to my non working horn? or potentially is there a short here? BW Graham On my turn signal switch, the 2 wires are for the dip switch. One is tan with a white tracer (goes to the relay), while the other is a solid tan, that goes to ground. This makes the dip switch cycle the relay between the 2 beams (hi and low). Is there another brown (tan) wire you're seeing, coming out of the steering column head? If so, that one probably works the horn, and goes to ground. |
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Post by Greg Skinner on Jun 9, 2012 10:07:41 GMT -8
The very small brown wire (without the white stripe) should have a space connector crimped to the end and goes to the left leg of the fuse box which should have a male spade connection for this purpose.
The larger brown wire that comes out of the inside of the upper steering column--assuming that it's still wired correctly internally--is ground for the horn relay and should go to ground potential when the horn button is pressed. This larger brown wire should solder to the 4th from the left receiver on the terminal block attached to the top side of the upper steering column. From there, the spade connection on the other end of this terminal should be a brown wire that goes up to the horn relay terminal 86 at the left leading edge of the front trunk.
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Post by bobnotch on Jun 10, 2012 11:58:33 GMT -8
Thanks Greg. That might be why my horn wasn't working thru the steering wheel switch. After I get back from the Invasion, I'll investigate it more in depth. Right now I've got it working, and the car is almost ready to go to Colorado (needs to be loaded up). ;D
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Post by Graham Filmer on Jun 11, 2012 2:01:01 GMT -8
Hi Bob and Greg, your guidance is much appreciated - thank you.
Checking my set-up. The brown on its own does indeed go to the fuse box leg and the brown and white wire does go to the block above the steering column and then onto the horn relay - so all is correct, but no horn. Relay and horn both checked and are good. I have changed the internal horn push elements with new items and checked continuity from the wires coming out of the block above the steering box to the horn and all is good. The problem seems to be something to do with the horn push and/or earthing wire to that runs through the steering column.
On checking this earth wire was clearly in a very poor condition at the steering coupling end, so I have re-wired it, running a wire up through the column and connecting it inside the horn push area under the small screw clamp - still nothing.
However, i'm wondering if there should be a further 'jumper' wire from the new earth wire that connects to the male terminal at the bottom of the steering column to the earth on the steering box. Also how tight should the three screws that hold the horn push in place be tightened? Any thoughts appreciated - I'm determined to get this fixed! Best Wishes Graham
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Post by Jürgen Klein on Jun 11, 2012 10:20:11 GMT -8
There must be a short cable at the rubber disc between the steering column and the steering box .
To connect the column to the ground of the car . I hope you understand me ??
Jürgen
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Post by Graham Filmer on Jun 11, 2012 12:18:23 GMT -8
Many thanks Jurgen, I'll add an extra jumper wire in the morning and hope that solves the issue!
Regards
Graham
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