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Post by George Holt on Jun 8, 2013 14:51:07 GMT -8
Hello All, I have a July, 62 T34, is there a difference in the vent window locking latch hole size? Reason I ask, I have two different looking locking vent window latches. The diameter of the passenger side locking latch is smaller and also is more rounded compared to my drivers side vent window locking latch. My drivers side vent window locking latch had a larger diameter male side bolt. I have a feeling they are two different years makes. Excuse my terms, I don't know the correct terminology. I am attempting to locate a drivers side vent window, I want to make sure it fits. Any help on the differences, would be appreciated. Thanks, George
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Post by Jürgen Klein on Jun 9, 2013 4:10:12 GMT -8
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Post by George Holt on Jun 9, 2013 11:38:48 GMT -8
Jurgen, Thanks for the reply. I read through the post that you had. I don't speak German, but I put it through Google Translator. I will post the translation in a bit. From what I read, there are slight differences. I didn't have a problem with the top hole, like you did. I have enclosed a picture of my drivers side vent window locking latch. The picture is a little fuzzy, but you can see the arrow. It points to a rectangle edge. Where as my passenger locking vent window latch side is round. Also, the diameter of the male bolt that goes into the latch, this was to large for the lower window hole. Which this leads me to the question, is this the correct vent window latch for this year (july 62)? And my second question, if I were to buy a driver side vent window off ebay, is this going to fit my 62, top hole and bottom hole-latch wise? Attachments:
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Post by George Holt on Jun 9, 2013 11:46:05 GMT -8
Entry string: Dated April 2011 This is the link that Jurgen suggested above. I took the liberty to use Google translator. I removed the off topic items to reduce the letter count.
Thanks, George
Entry #1: I was there once discovered certain problems. And I'm putting together my doors. The driver's side is complete, the passenger side poses a problem. When installing the rotating window I realized not only finds that there are 2 different upper bearing blocks with different hole spacing that the stub shaft for rotation may be different thick that it differently constructed, variously shaped, differentiated cut and divergent "thickness" of the inner region are (what different thickness gaskets due triangle), but also that the holes in the glass to sit in different places or should. I build the disc, the hole that sits an inch too high for this to be incorporated pedestal part ....... And I have older and newer disks with D-20 and D93 - lettering. And was one of those times since it ... I seem to remember anyway. Question: Are these differences in position in the glass-holes or actually fools me as just another material mix of items (because I always want to install the best available functional parts)? The frame should / must remain. I think I can make changes only at the upper bearing block. Shorten? Or change the position of the screw and the fixing pin? By the way: Even the metal retaining tabs behind the door handle / door board are different. And there are different shapes and inclination angle. Un-believable-ing! Who knows modest? greeting Jürgen
Entry #2: Oh great, I'm curious how my assembly in 2028 after the welding and painting is ....
've Collected so many parts and have since not taken on it ...
'm Going to soon make a comparison of the old and newer parts ....
greeting
Entry #3: igentlich must cancel ALL gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanz to finally sort out and only when everything is back ASSEMBLED. Not when it is so for assembling on the table ready to talk. Only AFTER. In the doors are still so many more surprises. That the locks are different, is clear. The control / locking rod forward or even upward. Then, the different forms of the latch. Bottom round or rectangular. Then of course the upper cushion strips just with or without hole for the pin. The inner metal skin is - has also been changed - clear. The Neigungseinstellerei varies. Old M6, M8 new. Accordingly, the holes. The attachment of the front rotation axis is also changed. Then this little rubber disc at the front door end. Or the oil opening above the castle. Later was just there. More? Determined. But we come from my topic. greeting Jürgen
Entry #4: Moin Jürgen,
I guess it is in fact the mix of materials. But it must not be important to remember that YOU zusammenpuzzlest all the parts, how it fits best, but also that KARMANN probably has a Matrialmix. The '34 was finally not as sliced bread and then was not "just in time" made, but who had in the warehouse and on the bands certainly larger amounts of stuff in stock, which they have built little by little.
As I prepared for my doors all original Alteile again and installed, they fit well and were right and left sides.
greeting
Goetz
Entry #5: Well, most of it is already my original car, for example, was only the left triangular window smashed and whether the pivot bearings were complete, I do not know .... <Picture 1> And then he had left so times a violent accident in which the door, the rear half of the sills, the rear fender, the rear window and probably some more were exchanged. Part against "modern" replacement. However, some parts have also been reused. <Picture 2> I just got screwed in my hall from 2 other Türpäärchen the upper pivot bearing from the frame and behold: In a car the holes and the parts were also modified before. Filed, drilled new holes etc. See on the weekend, like `s suits. greeting Jürgen
Entry #6: what are these arms?? (referring to the arm rests in the door panel.)
Entry #7: ch believable that are solid wood! Where Jürgen has here, but I do not know ...
greeting
Goetz
Entry #8: interesting variation to a petri ....
Entry #9: This vehicle at the fair in Stuttgart had carved itself armrests ...
Entry #10: The armrests are - quite rightly - made of solid wood. Those were times at 2 scruffy Karmann - doors `m Schrottpaltz and it took me some effort to convince the owners of course, that the doors myself and not these" non-original "interested handles. Well that he could not read minds. Which then brought a piano maker, who lived in our house into shape. And now, after 20 years, I was finally able to screw these pieces. Something does then have fun .... They look quite professional way made. And Peter can I screw in my Karmann then yes. At the moment I'm still thinking on whether the white standard steering wheel or just the Petri part comes into it. Still, it is in my green '68 stage .... But I also have 2 original wooden gear knobs from time to properly condition. Let's see - you can go even once. I sat by the way yesterday for the first time in 24 years in the Karmann, but in the back seat. Man, that's tight. If there's driver `s stool is in front, then go do nothing more. greeting Jürgen
Entry #11: The white standard steering wheel? Was there ever anything in '34 (standard), other than a black steering wheel? Then indeed would the turn signal switch and the entire steering column to be white, is that so?
greeting
Goetz
Entry #12: Hello Jürgen, I am of the opinion that there was no white wheel series in '34. Always black, except for the exception Pigalle red ... Only the Hupring was different. Very nice to follow the assembly! Keep it up ...
Regards, Tobias
Entry #13: Hello Tobias, Tobias Ebner wrote: ... I am of the opinion that there was no white wheel series in '34. Always black, except for the exception Pigalle red ...
I would think - at least for the full range of available brochures '34 - Connect.
Entry #14: Fast idols evening wrote: The white standard steering wheel? Was there ever anything in '34 (standard), other than a black steering wheel? Then indeed would the turn signal switch and the entire steering column to be white, is that so?
greeting
Goetz
So a white steering wheel series in '34 there was not definitive. The steering wheel was always black. The only exception to the two special models Pigalle and teak from the year 66 Where do I find the '34 is very good. I'm so like one or the other knows for sure my steering wheel covered with a contemporary leather. Was bought by the first owner of the way so because he "feels better" to
Entry #15: Moin, Of course, I also know that there were no white steering wheel standard on the Karmann 34th I would have maybe a little more complicated, but are intended to express more accurately. So: A white steering wheel, which corresponds to the series valance except in color. Now you can say in my Karmann was a steering wheel with horn button - not Huphalbring. Clear. But I can not bear. Lowered and loud colors, rats - Gammel - look, modern wheels, other motors, etc: not so; vehicles - I'm on originalo. But small deviations I treat myself already. My rims about'll be too old for the car, the door armrests, a converted on 34 RPM by Gossen, belts, tag on 2-circuit - brakes, radial tires, extra horns, blue rubber cuff on the shift lever, anywhere I hide have a tape deck and speakers, other shift knob, additional oil sump tray under the dash, maybe this or that. I've let some chrome parts before a good 20 years. <picture> And my white steering wheel fits perfectly to the white roof and the other white control panel, in my red soda with white roof I have a white steering wheel in it. I also have these horns for full ring, but at the moment in the red soda.
By the way: These steering wheel covers, there was the beginning of my classic car - time still new in the shop. Model "Avus", Perforated, in brown and with 2 meter Plastikschnürband. In time, you will not slip as you need it but also just like to suffer. I had before the white steering wheel in the red soda also.
Yesterday I had the rain gutter strips (re a NOS!) Mounted on the left and the seals at the top of the page, including B-pillar in it. All used and each of the top four existing. Law is the work in progress.
But let's get off the subject: Does anyone have anything to report about the shooting window problem?
Nice weekend Jürgen
Entry #16: I am tomorrow at the vehicle and the parts. 'm Going to compare with my hung windows .... 'm Curious how it looks ..
Will report.
greeting
Entry #17: Heiko Thum wrote: I'm so like one or the other knows for sure my steering wheel covered with a contemporary leather. Was bought by the first owner of the way so because he "feels better" to
As a reference I shot myself on Ebay a few years ago. However, not with the usual Umwickelband earlier, but with a black cord for tying on the inside. Just feels better on than naked plastic steering wheel.
Gerd
Entry #18: And wat iss midde window-holes, Loide? greeting Jürgen
Entry #19: Jürgen Klein wrote: And wat iss midde window-holes, Loide? greeting Jürgen
manure,
I spent the whole day in the workshop and forgot it Was employed to cut the a 34er until the Flex has adopted ... Anyone who buys cheap, buys twice .. So I've now got a Metabo ...
I'm going tomorrow morning outside again and then check .. Sorry
Entry #20: It is clear, individual characters allowed! Allowed's something like ... Although I've already broken both early and late doors, but never next to each other and have had would not have had the idea that there are changes. At the moment the early doors (installed in '34) but elsewhere as the Late (broken down into the hall), so I can not compare ... nothing
Greeting Tobias
Entry #22: Since there are 4 more doors in the hall, I once removed the upper pivot bearing. And see: One of the previous owners probably had exactly the same problem with the offset window hole. Depending on a left and a right door carrying upper pivot bearing to which the threaded pin is removed, a new hole drilled somewhat lower and the set screw was reinstated. In addition, the speci has filed the guide pins. Although now fitted a modified parts of this with me, but at the cost of leadership. In addition, the angle is not quite true - is logical. Let's see if there is eventually a better solution. The passenger door is almost together, it's missing from the Verstellbefestigung hung window below. Furthermore, today I have spotted the lower door seals at the A and the B-pillar, cleaned, and combines the best parts. But there already lurking in the bushes again risk: The rubber seals on the A-column are different. This little mini - rain gutter that is cast it sits, by about the middle, sometimes much further below. Why? I have a NOS right now with the center channel and left with a good used gutter below ...... Incidentally, the synthetic leather, which was sewn / glued to this circular rubber, grained different. My two (original) old parts have a different structure! And why are again ready for installation. The same goes for the leather of the B-pillars. Similar structural differences way, I have already found in the dashboard padding. greeting Jürgen
Entry #23: I am still struck by the way that the rotational angular windows are ground up front with D-20 and later D-93rd And yes I have a D-20 - hung windows installed where the hole also (like during the late-93 - windows) does not fit ....? Please do not dismiss me now just as riveting counter, to me these things are just only noticed when assembling and then when the parts do not fit, that's annoying. I have (theoretically) Yes. Well for assembling parts of my 65ers, another 65ers and some recent 34er available And secure various parts that I bought on markets `s just good. And yet sometimes something does not fit. It's just typical VW: Looks the same - it is not! Thank you by the way still for the photos. Jürgen
Entry #24: Jürgen Klein wrote: Please do not dismiss me now just as riveting counter, to me these things are just only noticed when assembling and then when the parts do not fit, that's annoying. Jürgen
Rivet counter? Nah not really, I can only speak for myself here, and I'm damn glad about your experiences .. Of this I can only learn and benefit ...
Entry #25: I also find `s beastly interesting that VW has built seemingly small but subtle differences in the '34 series ... these rags! So Jürgen, quietly "pea-count" and post Ungereimheiten busy.
greeting
Goetz
Entry #26: Yes, Goetz, the go! Look here: <picture> This is my "new" trunk mat, made to your pattern. Good, is not it? Only the snaps we have to MFC. And another clean is announced. Since any Talkshow on alternative materials or carpets omitted. Friday is my TL in the hall and the "bringer" - friends help me to get my '34 motor off the shelf, so I can do the final work on it. Then "wedding" - after all, I had not celebrate "frame off" restoration and sometime I have to sometimes. Is still the engine to my car left the factory in 1965 ....! greeting Jürgen
Entry #27: Wonderful, has therefore worked with the mat. 'm Soooo excited to see the car still safe to live in this summer! And by "matching numbers" in motor vehicle AND I can no longer serve as an AT came in the 80-part pure, sniff!
greeting
Goetz
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Post by Jürgen Klein on Jun 9, 2013 12:27:38 GMT -8
Ah , now I know your problem ! So pictures are important sometimes ... I have to see all my vent windows tomorrow if I can see any differences in this locking latches . Maybe you have the latches from the limousine ? Are there different types ? Jürgen
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Post by Bob Heydt on Jun 11, 2013 5:14:48 GMT -8
I do have a question about the bolt for the upper hinge. Does it get any blue loctite when getting installed? I'm only asking, as I put 3000 miles last summer on my 64, and at about 2200 miles, that bolt started to work loose. I closed the window, until I got to the next rest area, where I re-tightened it, only to have it do it again about 400 miles later. I'm just asking about it, since I want to replace the latch pin for the window lock with 1 of those new stainless steel ones that are now available (mine's rusty on the outside cap).
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