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Post by Scott Brdlik on Jul 26, 2013 11:43:56 GMT -8
Is there a source for the oil paper on the inside of the door panels, between the panel and the door or whatever it is? Plastic can work but...
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Post by Matthias Andree on Jul 26, 2013 12:40:56 GMT -8
Hi Scott, I just know the oil-paper stuff from the first generation T34s. I had a 1962 interior where fragments left. (but maybe I´m wrong) Later, even the the T3 and beetles did have plastic foil, that works perfect. So I did stick a foil on the door an assembled the door panels (it is important to use something ever to keep moisture from the panels, even air streams... Sorry, no special dealer known.
Best regards from Berlin to Wisconsin. I spent a couple times in Berlin/WI in the late 1990s Loved that part of the US so much and I always felt like beeing "among friends" !!! Matthias
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Post by Scott Brdlik on Jul 26, 2013 14:05:46 GMT -8
Thanks. I can try something like the foil. There are many options. I will probably spray the new door panels with sealed or something to keep them from warping, too. The parts lists have rubber plugs for the clips. Is this the normal setup for all VWs from this time?
My parents are from Berlin, WI!
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Post by Lee Hedges on Jul 26, 2013 20:59:28 GMT -8
All the T34 door panels that I've seen have/had the brownish/orange oil paper glued onto the back surface of the door panel. I just received a pair of 1968-69 door panels from Germany (below) that have the oil paper attached. I've never tried to source this paper, but I imagine it was not exclusive to the T34s. I'd bet all of the Karmann vehicles had it installed.
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Post by Wally Burrows on Jul 27, 2013 5:26:45 GMT -8
Wow-- did you get those from Carsten? Because the ones I got from him are crap!!! Like most of the other parts I received.... be forewarned folks,
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Post by Lee Hedges on Jul 27, 2013 8:27:26 GMT -8
I was very fortunate to get this pair from Heiko Thum in Germany. He had been saving them and years and wouldn't need them for his 1964. I'm hoping to get them installed this weekend. Saturday morning: I removed the passenger (right) side door panel and discovered that not only is the oil paper glued to the backside of the door panel but the door shell is glued with a clear plastic covering. So there was double-protection from water entering the door window area and draining down out from the bottom drainage holes. I removed the old pieces of plastic and (thanks to Paul Colbert's previous work & generosity to send me the remainder of his plastic sheeting) I glued in a fresh piece (below). THen I used scissors to trim around the areas that did not show signs of the original glue (window crank, door pull, etc).
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Post by Graham Filmer on Jul 28, 2013 2:00:06 GMT -8
I installed my plastic sheeting with BlueTac - an idea I saw on Samba, it was a lot easier than trying to tension the plastic sheeting whilst glueing it
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Post by Miguel Parot on Feb 10, 2014 3:11:18 GMT -8
Hello, The time had come to start working on my doors : - new door straps (got good repros from vintagecarparts.de, Rüdiger Huber, in Germany) - new anti-humidity protection - renovate panel doors Concerning the material for the anti humidity (anti-moisture?) protection I had the choice between a transparent plastic sheet, like Lee is showing us on his photo, or a plastic coated brown paper, which is reinforced by some nylon thread disposed in a square pattern all over. See photo. The coating happens to be covering the nylon thread square pattern. This paper was found at a local factory that receives parts wrapped in this paper : Cost is : zero, in whatever money ! I opted for this second choice as I thought that placing the plastic coated face against the door shell would result in a satisfactory way of keeping moisture inside the door shell (and being evacuated in the long run through the drainage hole at the bottom.). But the main reason was that this would also remind the look of the original brownish oiled paper used by VW in 1963. I did both doors this morning, using a neopren glue in a spray, of the 3M brand. See the result here-below. I di my best to tension the paper as much as I could, but it was impoosible not to leave a wrinkle here and there. Anyway I am quite happy with the result ! Later, I will place the rubber caps (From the Classic Store, in France, one of the 2 authorised VW aircooled part dealers in France) in every hole to that effect, and I will pin the panels with NOS scissors clips that I got from the T3 HQ, Mario Steinhauser, in Germany. In 2 weeks time I will get back my "brand new" door panels. The structure will be made of expanded pvc, a modern stuff, on which the original leatherette and material will be affixed. The leatherette will have been cleaned and revived with a special product. (I have the rear panels done also - just the cleaning - in the same time, to avoid difference in tone) After that I will place the new door straps in place. And that will be it with the doors !
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